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In recent months sources have revealed an alarmingly growing trend of the re-emergence of the propagation of Sanaatanism by fake neo-Nihangs on the Internet and certain individuals spreading Sanaatanism through out UK, Europe and now Canada and America.
Recently, Kamalroop Singh, a follower of UK based “Nihang” Niddar Singh, who is apparently studying a PhD in the Dasam Granth at a UK university, has been accused of mischievously propagating Sanaatanism through the false pretences of promoting understanding on the Dasam Granth. One concerned individual said, “Such people have shamefully destroyed the proud history of Panthic seva by Nihangs… that is good Nihangs who followed mainstream Sikhism thinking of no meat, bhang, alcohol, idol worship, etc.”

Taken from a Sanaatan Sikhi website which shows Sikhs are Hindus
There are many good Nihang Dals (groups). Missel Shaheedan Harian Vela is the one that comes to mind first. They do not consume meat, bhang, or alcohol, and their Jathedar, Baba Nihal Singh, suffered through torture after 1984. He was tied up behind a jeep and dragged, causing him much injury. This is at a time when many other so-called Nihangs were towing the government's line. The problem is not with the true Nihangs, but with people posing as Nihang Singhs while promoting ‘Sanaatanism.’
Sanaatan
So what is Sanaatanism? The word ‘Sanaatan’ literally means ‘traditional’ or ‘original,’ however in India it is used to refer to the ancient traditional beliefs and practices of the Hindus. Sanaatanism basically is an ideology that states, it is the oldest theory, hence insinuating it is correct and everything else is wrong. It does not believe in one maryada but in many maryadas and many groups, i.e. Nihangs, Nirmallas, Udaasis and Seva Panthis.

The opposite of Sanaatanism is the Khalsa ideologue. The Khalsa ideologue believes in Oneness. The Khalsa believes in One Akal, One Guru (Shabad Guru), One Guru Khalsa Panth, and One Rehit Maryada. So this is where Sikhs and Sanaatanists differ. Sanaatanism, believes in four groups, where rehit is non-existent or not important, believes that Sikhi is not a separate religion, but a part of Hinduism, Amrit is not important (and many do not take it), encourages in idol worship, animal sacrifices (called ‘jhatka’), belief in Hindu deities as gods and goddesses etc. Where as the Khalsa of the Guru believe that Guru Gobind Singh Ji created only one Guru Khalsa Panth where everyone is equal and everyone follows the same maryada, as stated by Guru Ji himself. In addition, this Khalsa of the Guru does not accept intoxicants, animal slaughter, or idol worship, and believes Amrit is fundamental to becoming a Sikh of the Guru.
Guru Ji in concise language states the following:
ਜੀਅ ਬਧਹੁ ਸੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਹੁ ਅਧਰਮੁ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਤ ਭਾਈ ॥
ਆਪਸ ਕਉ ਮੁਨਿਵਰ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਹੁ ਕਾ ਕਉ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਸਾਈ ॥2॥
"You kill living beings, and call it a righteous action. Tell me, brother, what would you call an unrighteous action? If you religious people are doing "religious" killing for meat, then what is A-dharam (atheism)? If you are a religious person then whom will we call a butcher? ||2||"
(SGGS - Ang 1103)
ਕਬੀਰ ਭਾਂਗ ਮਾਛੁਲੀ ਸੁਰਾ ਪਾਨਿ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਖਾਂਹਿ ॥
ਤੀਰਥ ਬਰਤ ਨੇਮ ਕੀਏ ਤੇ ਸਭੈ ਰਸਾਤਲਿ ਜਾਂਹਿ ॥੨੩੩॥
"O Kabeer! Those mortals who consume marijuana (drugs), fish (meat) and wine (liquor) - no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ||233||"
(SGGS - Ang 1377)
ਮੈ ਨ ਗਨੇਸ਼ਹਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਮਨਾਊਂ ॥ ਕਿਸ਼ਨ ਬਿਸ਼ਨ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨਹ ਧਿਆਊਂ ॥
ਕਾਨ ਸੁਨੇ ਪਹਿਚਾਨ ਨ ਤਿਨ ਸੋਂ ॥ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗੀ ਮੋਰੀ ਪਗ ਇਨ ਸੋਂ ॥੪੩੪॥
“I do not seek blessings or hail Ganesh before I start any task. (In old times, often Ganesh would be hailed before starting any task). Nor do I worship Krishan or Vishnu etc. I have heard of them but I do not recognise any of them. I am engrossed in the loving devotion of my Lord (Waheguru) alone.”
(DG – P. 733, Krishan Avtar)

Arya Samaajist - Swami Dayanand
Historically this debate has been going on for some time. It came to the forefront at the time of the Arya Samaaj, a right-wing Hindu reform movement founded in 1875 by Swami Dayanand. Swami Dayanand, the key propagator of Sanaatanism was very successful in bringing many aspects of it into mainstream Sikh thinking—ideas such as caste and idol worship—which at that time was even happening in the Harmandar Sahib complex. The reaction came in the form of the Singh Sabha Movement and Gurdwara Sudhaar Lehar in which Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh, Sant Attar Singh Mastuana, and Baba Gurbachan Singh Bindranwale were prominent. These two movements reasserted Khalsa ideologue back into the Panth and reintroduced the sense of Panthic spirit and Oneness. Despite their differences in maryada, their thinking in terms of Panthic and Khalsa Ideologue were the same.
| "Sanaatanist thinking is diluting traditional Sikh ideologue, and attempting to re-package itself by portraying itself as purataan (original), therefore creating doubt on fundamental issues. " |
The pivotal time was Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha’s book, Hum Hindu Nahee’n, which basically finished all debate by Sanaatanists. Today, due to so many Sikh youth becoming martyred and through corrupt leadership, Sanaatanism is reasserting itself in the Panth. Through the RSS and also through illiterate Sikh thinking, Sanaatanism is going from strength to strength.
The Sikh intelligentsia, who traditionally countered this pro-Hindu propoganda, is now very old and weak. Prof Harbhajan Singh, Piara Singh Padam and Bhai Joginder Singh Talwara have all passed away in recent years. The prominent jathas, i.e. AKJ and Taksal, are consumed by internal divisions and are weakened. While other so-called RSS opponents have gotten themselves mixed up with the heretic Kala Afghana lobby, whose mis-parchar is actually benefitting the RSS, instead of countering it.
Sanaatanist thinking is diluting traditional Sikh ideologue, and attempting to re-package itself by portraying itself as purataan (original), therefore creating doubt on fundamental issues. Because Sikhs have been weakened by a lack of access to their own literature and a lack of solidarity to Panthic Sikh Rehit Maryada, the Sanaatanists have been able to flourish.
| "...they are using these great examples of Sikh Spirit to promote meat, bhang (cannabis), alcohol, idol worship, and non-acceptance of the Khalsa Panth but acceptance of Indian Nationhood." |
Sanaatanist Nihangs are even more dangerous. They follow the same line of thought as Swami Dayanand. What they have done is overtake the proud history of the Nihang Dals that is widely respected in Sikh History, and use it to push their non-Sikhi Sanaatan thinking. Similar to the way the BNP (British National Party) in the UK have hijacked the flag of United Kingdom. Many youth, especially youth involved in Gatka, love hearing stories from British history. But they are using these great examples of Sikh Spirit to promote meat, bhang (cannabis), alcohol, idol worship, and non-acceptance of the Khalsa Panth but acceptance of Indian Nationhood.
It is beyond belief how these modern 'Nihangs' have forgotten their pasts and are so caught up in this. This is shown by their complete lack of seva for over 50 years. Now they seem hell bent on slating the Singh Sabha movement and subtly promoting their Hindufied version to the naïve and impressionable Sikh youth who lack direct Gurbani and history knowledge.
The reality is that before we can even dream of counteracting Sanaatan thought in India, we should be realistic enough to stop it in Western countries like the UK, where certain Sikh camps and universities have become a breeding ground for naïve and impressionable youngsters to become indoctrinated with Sanaatan beliefs and made to despise mainstream Sikhi.
On careful analysis of these peoples’ talks, one can clearly see that Sanaatan beliefs are being propagated under the cloak of teaching respect and understanding of traditional Sikhi. In recent years individuals linked to the snaatanists, namely Niddar Singh (UK), Paramjit Singh (UK), and Amandeep Singh Madra, have published books on Sikh history. But more worryingly these individuals have been linked to TV documentaries on Sikhi and now under the guise of a Sikh organization that claims to be keeping a watchful eye on Sikh heritage in Punjab they are attempting to gain credibility and trust within the wider Sikh community.

The Sikh youth need to ask themselves: by associating or just accepting Sanaatanists, what are they exactly accepting? Do not just blindly play into the whole Purataan (ancient) history routine. Do you honestly think Siri Guru Gobind Singh Ji said, bhang (cannabis), meat, and idol worship is fine? Is that the Khalsa he created?
Sources reveal that Sikh youth are being groomed into Sanaatanism through the Internet, university Sikh Societies, and Sikh Student Camp (Chigwell, UK). Youngsters are being brainwashed into thinking Sikhi is pluralistic and that there are many different versions, which include a strict version, a relaxed version, a saint version and a soldier version. But the reality is that Sikhi belongs to the Guru and no individual or group. Sikhi is a holistic dharm or way of life. The Guru decides what is Sikhi. Not us.
In five years time these misled youth will openly justify partying, clubbing, drinking, eating meat, extra-marital relationships and drug use by saying that they follow a particular line of Sikhi, like their role models. But will they ever be accepted by the Guru? We all need to think logically, do we really accept Sanaatanism? Thinking logically leaving aside the attachment to proud Nihang history and reflecting on basic facts of the ideologue, we must decide - do we really accept all this white wash of the Sikh faith and history?

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Guest_Kookar_* @ 25. May 2009
Khushiyaan de jaikaare gajaave nihal ho jaave Sat Sri Akaal...
Chitteyaan Baajaan Waaleyo Satguro rakheyo birdh baane di laaj...
Chitto Gupto Shaheedon Singhon, Sarbat Guru Khaalse Singh Sahib jee ko Sat Sri Akaal...
Deg Teg Fateh...Waheguroo Jo Ka Khaalsa Waheguroo Ji Ki Fateh...
gur peyaareyo and panth dardiyo....
no matter how much discussions we hold or how many articles we publish...the truth ("BITTER ONE") remains unaltered...only a few handful of literate people like us get to know about everything... "a handful of this handful" tend to think rationally that what went wrong and where it went wrong...and still "a handful of this handful" do something about it. LEAVE ALONE THE MASSES WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO ANY INFO (sorry for caps veero/bhaino)...
we Sikhs can continue discussions endlessly...that is what we have been engaged into since post 1800s...and that now has become our mentality that if one says something, other must affirm/counter it (please dont go into probability theories now)....
the bottom line still remains the same...kood (koorh) parchar is happening and it is happening tremendously....
history has witnessed that Sikhs can only be defeated from within...This is happening again....
We just need ONE STAND...no "n" number of jathebandis / groups striving for the same cause...(remember the story where the father gives sticks to his son to break them and he breaks them easily one by one...but he was unsuccessful at breaking the pile??) this is what we need today....we will never succeed separately...
this is just a humble request...daas is a bloody sinner who doesnt fit in this forum.....but somewhere in my heart and conscience, i do feel that something needs to be done...and more importantly, QUICKLY...otherwise, the damage that has happened and has been happening is irreversible (remember that lesson in science where they taught that radioactive contamination spreads in seconds...but it takes many many many (millions+) years to reverse its effects.)
daas would be active at this forum..and i know that many veer/bhain jis must have got same and definitely better ideas than me....we need to act quickly singho/singhniyo....otherwise, that day is not far away when IDOL WORSHIP would be done is GURUDWARAS and Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji maharaj would be kept on a shelf as a book on which spiders and dust would rule....
sorry for my language,and if i broke forum rules...
But this is what i truly feel...
Gurfateh....
Guest_nirmal_* @ 21. May 2009
I see a lot of attention towards Nidar. let us not forget that Kamalroop nang is the most poisonous and evil person who has ever pretended to be a Nihang.
He is pathetic screwed up figure and to assume he is a scholar or give him credibility is just a joke.
If he is a Nihang then there is no hope for the future. He is a psycopathic coward first and foremost.
Kamalroop the need for reform and reflection is not with the AKJ, Taksaal, Singh Sabha's but with you. Find a psychiatrist. Better still renounce that Sikhi bana you use as a front. If you want to be an informer and a grass do so but do not disgrace the Guru's form.
"I cant believe 3ho invites kamalroop to speak at their events??????????????" here's an article on kamalroop singh's blog wrt niddar singh: Nidar Singh and Buddha Dal After a recent trip to India and spending time with various Jathedars, a number of conversations took place, that I would like to add were intiated by those in-charge. The outcome of which were: 1. Nidar Singh is not Jathedar of Buddha Dal UK and no Singh has the permission at this time to take the role. 2. The Jathedars in India: acting Jathedar of Akal Takht, Baba Gurbachan Singh, Akali Baba Joginder Singh Ji Buddha Dal, Akali Baba Makhan Singh Ji Tarana Dal Shahidi Misal, Baba Daya Singh Biddhi Chand, Akali Baba Nihal Singh, do not agree with the views of Nidar Singh. 3. They have clearly stated that Sikhs are not Hindu 4. That Sikhi is not Snatan http://neo-sikhism.blogspot.com/2009/04/ni...buddha-dal.html
I was looking through "World Sikh News" magazine article today and they had an article promoting Niddar . What is wrong with these people, who is World SIkh news funded by. IN the article Niddar says " I want to find two or three intelligent and tolerant young apprentices who can pass on what Ive learned to future generations" iT SHOULD BE MORE LIKE " I want to find two or three uniformed cheyla so they can pass RSS agenda to future generations"
But we always must remember even during the first ten "SatGuru of the Sikhs" had these types of people running around mocking their teachings. These fools will eventually try to live off drinking mud, for now they are drinking dirty water that niddar is spitting out. I cant believe 3ho invites kamalroop to speak at their events?????????????? They think Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj didnt go and punish the massands because we are all one big family etc. we are one big family wen not commiting crimes and Sikhs were the police. "Wen all other means fail then it is righteous to pick up the sword"10thNanak. Here is the absolute truth, no other community or characters can get Sikhs as upset and disoriented than Sikhs themselves so they plant people to have Sikhs fight Sikhs so they all can sit back and watch the show. If an outside force wants to disrespect Sikhi they usually just have a Sikh fight a guy in Sikhroop. There is a point in learning Sikhi to understand what is Gurmat and what is recent propaganda, if you cant tell the difference then you are forage for all the durmat people in sikh roop. kala afghana ragidarshan etc are all recent propaganda playing in the hands of prohindu society trying to gain sikhs as a reward for false history. At one point the middle ages and the catholic popes all erased and changed history to have modern secular society force fed christian history as a base to throw away information either for or against your beliefs. To try to change history is like trying to change the color of the sky, its always the natural colors no matter how much black smoke you put in the air.
QUOTE Are there any of these Nang groups in North America? No nangs here, just us murakhs. But we have plenty to deal with out selves here like Kala Afghana, Ghagga, Ragi Darshan, etc.
It was actually only 4-5 years ago. I remember it pretty clearly when they came out with their sarbloh info site calling bhai fauja singh jee a nang.
Thats when myself and the rest of cyber sangat flipped it around on them and coined them nangs. Wow only 4 or 5 years. How have they been so effective in corrupting the youth. I have heard of cases in which AmritDhari Singhs have cut their Kes, started eating meat and doing drugs in their company?
It was actually only 4-5 years ago. I remember it pretty clearly when they came out with their sarbloh info site calling bhai fauja singh jee a nang. Thats when myself and the rest of cyber sangat flipped it around on them and coined them nangs.
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